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November 1996 |
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When Bridgett and Terri began researching the Bible surname, all indications were that everyone with this surname was descended from the same individual, Hans Adam Biebel. Although we found this concept hard to believe, it was a long time before we were able to locate anyone with the Bible surname that didn't belong to this lineage. We are pleased to be able to tell you that we have found two more Bible families that are not (directly, if at all) connected to the Hans Adam Biebel who emigrated in 1750. Some of you reading this who were having difficulties seeing a connection between your family and the TN/VA bunch, may be connected to one of these other two. In the Annette K. Burgert book on eighteenth century immigrants to America from Alsace that we mentioned in our last newsletter, there was information given on another Biebel immigrant. This was Johann Daniel Biebel, known as Daniel. According to this book, he was also born in Goersdorf, Alsace; but his parents and grandparents were not the same as those of Hans/Johann Adam. We do believe, however, that there surely was some familial connection somewhere further back. J. Daniel was born 30 Oct 1727 and arrived in America in 1750 on board the ship "Edinburgh". He married Maria |
Margaret Grob on 14 May 1754 in Lancaster, PA. They had 9 children. Daniel Bible died in Lancaster, PA on 2 Sept. 1773. (records
from Trinity Lutheran Church in Lancaster) Margaret died 24 Apr 1800 in Lebanon, PA. There were
5 children (1 son and 4 daughters) living at that time, according to what was written in the church records at the time of her death. We have recently made contact with several descendants of Daniel and his wife and we'd like to welcome them to the ranks of Bible researchers. Through them and other sources, we have identified 3 of Daniel's children. They are (to the best of our knowledge): Christiana Elizabeth-born 11 Dec 1756, Johan Jacob-born 12 Sept 1758, and Anna Maria - born 11 Jun 1761. Apparently, one of the reasons we had not found them before is that this family stayed in the northern states and Hans Adam's family went south. We hadn't really looked in the north for Bibles yet. The third Bible line is one on which we have very little information. Terri contacted a gentleman in California who knew very little about his lineage. He said he was descended from a Joseph Bible who emigrated from Ireland. He thinks the family was first in NY and then moved to Colorado Springs, CO where 13 children were born. Many of the descendants of this family are now living on the West coast. We have heard rumors about a Joseph Bible who allegedly moved from VA to OH around 1800 and then went to Ireland, only to return to America in the mid 1800s. If anyone knows anything more about that rumor, we'd love to hear about it. (con't page 2) |
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The Family Bible (ISSN 1089-4381) is published 3/4 times a year. It is published for the benefit of all who are interested in and researching the surname Bible. Subscription: E-mail subscriptions are free, but come in plain text, nothing fancy. Postal Copies will be gratis for one year from February 1996, after which the fees will be established as to what it has cost us for supplies to send this to you (in other words, we don't know what the cost is at this time, but will keep it as nominal as possible). Of course, we will not turn down any contributions you may feel like sending us to help defray the expenses. To subscribe: Send either editor an e-mail letter to their e-mail address or street address, with your name, e-mail address, postal address (in case your e-mail address changes), and your direct lineage (optional, but it would be nice).
For postal delivery: Same as above, except of course no e-mail address. Postal & email addresses below. Bridgett Edwards Schneider 3101 N. 41st Street Lincoln, NE 68504 Terri Bible Strotman 1028 S. So. Second Street Alhambra, CA 91801 e-mail us at: bible-family@maddoc.net © by Bridgett Edwards Schneider/Terri Bible Strotman ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. EDITORS NOTE: In our last issue, we presented new evidence regarding the ancestry of Hans Adam Bible. This evidence is very different from what had |
been reported by R. Donahue Bible some 30 years
ago. For those interested in the manner of research
Donahue used in his quest for information in
Germany, Donahue has sent this information to
Bridgett. If you would like a copy of this, please
send request via USPS with SASE, and she will be
glad to send you a copy.
(continued from page 1) We do know that the immigrant ancestor of this branch was Thomas Bible (son of Joseph Bible), b. 14 Apr 1847 in Killarney, Ireland. He and his wife ended up in Colorado Springs, CO, where they had 13 children by the 1880s. We'll have some of those names next time.
We think we may have found a sister for old Hans Adam Biebel (or "Hansi" as we like to call him!). In the Annette Burgert book referred to in our last issue, there is an entry on a Nicklaus Sch_ffer. On 21 Apr 1750, at the Preuschdorf Lutheran Church, he married Maria Elsabetha Biebel, daughter of Hans Georg Biebel and Maria Eva (Burckhardt) There is a notation in the Church records that this couple "went to the New Land" with their children. Maria Elisabetha is further identified as being the "sister of Joh. Adam Biebel, 1750 immigrant" The Sch_ffers immigrated in 1767 on the Hamilton. The Sch_ffers had 8 children born in Alsace between 1751 and 1766. Apparently all the children immigrated with the parents. We have the names and dates of the children if anyone is interested. We have no idea at this time where they settled in America. EDITOR'S NOTE: It was reported in our last issue that Annette K. Burgert's bailiwick was Western Europe. That was an unintentional error. Her expertise is in 18th century records and immigration from the Palatine and Alsace areas. |
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Nancy McCourt- Hans Adam Jr? =>John Bible (m. Magdalene Magdalene/Unknown) => Jacob Bible (m. Elizabeth Reedy) =>Daniel Bible (m. Leliah "Lila" Caplinger) => Benjamin Franklin Bible (m. Anna Lee Spitzer) => Raymond Franklin Bibble* (m. Doris L. Sheets) => Nancy Anne Bibble (m. Lowell A. McCourt).
Audrey Howe-
Dan Buehler-
Sue and Herb Propst-
Sue's lineage(s):
#2: Hansi=>Susannah (m.
Cherryhomes)=>Elizabeth (m. Roadcap)=>Margaret
(m. Shoemaker)=>Delilah (m. Reedy)=>Joseph (m.
Eve Miller)=> Albert (m.
Riley)=>Basil (m. Hensley)=> Sue
Herb's lineage:
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Lloyd Bible Christian=>Abraham=>Frank=>=>Oscar Abraham=>Hubert=>Virgil H. =>Lloyd V.
Fred Curry
Sue Crawford
Mary Francis Klontz/Nedra Dickman Brill
<Nedra e-mail: brillnd@pacifier.com>
Pat Krueger:
Bond L. Bible
We have received some queries since our last issue. Some were sent to the Bible Mailing List on the Internet, so we have included them here also for those of you who would not have seen them there. Ed Bible <bible@timken.com> writes: I really don't know a whole lot about my relatives. My father's name is Harold Duane Bible (1934- ), and he has lived in Ohio for the last 30-plus years, but was born and raised in Corbin, Ky. His father's name was Carl Baltz Bible (1909-74). His father was Hezekiah Baltz Bible who was from Marysville?, Tennessee. Does any one recognize these names? |
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Vi Wooden (Oklahoma City, OK) <Wooden336@worldnet.att.net> writes: My g-g-grandfather is Lewis Bible Miller b. ca1838 IN, d. ca1895 Newton Co. AR; and I'm trying to determine his parents/siblings . This is what the 1850 Hamilton Co, IN census tells me:
Daniel Miller age 26 b. OH Listed just above this family in the census is:
Calvin Shull age 25 b. OH This leads me to believe that parents of Lewis are not still living in 1850, and maybe Daniel and Catherine are his siblings. So, Bible descendants, is there anyone that has information that would link Bible to Miller or Shull? I would greatly appreciate any help.
Virginia and Ken Hicks (8900 Leatham Ave., Fair Oaks, Ca. 95628) are looking for information on Phillip Speegle and his wife Priscilla Bible. Their daughter was Dorothy Isabelle Speegle, b 1829 TN, died 8 Sept. 1896, Chico, CA. She has no other info on Dorothy's parents other than their names. Ken is the descendent. <KVHICKS@aol.com>
Jacquelyn Youse Whetro (10533 State Route 107, Montpelier OH 43543-9726) would like to find the parents of Nancy Carr/Kerr) Bible, who married Adam (Daddy) Bible on 17 Sep 1834 in Coshocton Co., OH; and the parents of Elizabeth (Betsy) Dustmer/Dorshimer b 21 Jun 1789, wife of George Bible. They married 26 Oct 1808 in Rockingham Co., VA and both died in Williams Co., OH. <geneajac@bright.net> |
(117 Elkhorn Dr., Georgetown, KY 403243) Nancy McCourt writes: So far, I've traced my family back to a John Bible (born 1792, Virginia)and his wife, Magdalene. They appear in the Rockingham County, Virginia 1850 census records with two sons: Jacob (my direct line), and George. I am thinking this (my) John *could be* the son of Hans Adam, Junior. However, I am confused as to who the Magdalene is. The only Magdalene I know of is the one married to Hans Adam, Junior (i.e. my John's mother).
Sue Crawford - (P.O. Box 1695, Dalton, GA 30722) would like to prove Phillip Bible, Christian's brother, is Christian's. She would like to know if anyone has absolute proof that Christian did have a brother named Philip.
Don Boys (C/O Central Coast Patent Agency, P.O. Box 187, Aromas, CA 95004) writes- I am interested in any information regarding Sarah "Sallie" Bible, married Samuel Easterly. Child George Washington Bible Easterly was my Great Grandfather. I found GWB Easterly living with another family in Tenn. at 14. Was there some tragedy in this family breaking it up early?? <rexboys@ix.netcom.com>
Jack Wilford (501 Lynn Ave, Goldsboro, NC 27534-4427 [919] 778-8208) would like any information on any of the following people: Thomas Bible - b. 21 Mar 1867, Louisville, Clay Co., Illinois; d. 21 Nov 1950, Blackfoot, Idaho Wife: Effie Belle Holloway - b. 10 Sep 1875, Galt, MO; d. 15 Jul 1938, Pocatello, Bannock, ID Children (Missing numbers are children who died too young to have issue: |
Terri Strotman (See addresses on p.2) I would love to know if anyone has any documentation proving, or disproving, that the John Bible who married Rebecca Coffelt was married before he married her. I have seen him linked with an Elizabeth Shoemaker and a ? Wilson in various family files, but the marriage to Rebecca is the only one documented. I'd also like to find a definitive birth date for this particular John. It seems to range from 1754 to 1776, depending on whose records one looks at.
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Bridgett Schneider (See addresses on p.2) I have been trying to find what happened to Eve Bible after Hans Adam died. The last mention of her in any research done or found is that she and son, George, put up 1200 pounds for the execution of Hansi's will. There is no mention of a "widow's dowry" anywhere that I can find (and possibly this record was burned in the civil war). I did find that George sold some land in Rockingham County VA in 1817, this land was his father's land that Hansi obtained through a land grant (unsure of this) in 1789. Could this be a clue that this may have been when Eve died? Also, I have been asked by "several" researchers of the Christian line if I knew anything about Catherine Folman. I do not, does anyone else know?
IN MEMORIAM-- Several of our subscribers have mentioned corresponding with Charles G. Bible of Rossville, GA. We regret to inform you that he passed away June 7, 1996. Cause of death was lung cancer.
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